Rule Discussion Post Set 2

MM:

I don’t care about this.  In my past life, i recollect that weed enhanced one’s ability to notice details. However, although legal in the state of Washington, i do abstain. Under the influence of it I get massively pissed off😤 at even the blade of grass! I can’t stand how stupid everyone is compared to me. Also, as i recall, under the influence of marijuana ( how is Juana, BTW, Kelly) time passes VERY slowly.  A shot of tequila, though, hmmm…..

I think as far the rules are concerned it can be left unsaid and thus interpreted at will.

 
On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Christopher Janke wrote:

Yes! I should have remembered the sobriety question! Sorry.

At this point, my interpretation of the rules is that it’s not prohibited, so it’s allowed. There are all kinds of details that aren’t specified, so I understand if you both interpret the lack of a mention as an implicit prohibition, as if anything that inhibits sobriety also inhibits the kind of attention we are seeking to explore… hmm dunno…

Christopher Janke
www.christopherjanke.com

 

From: KC
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:11 AM
To: CJ, MM
Subject: Re: Rule Group

I can always pick up your sass, Maureen. It makes me smile!!! And I appreciate Chris calling you a wiseass. That made me LOL. You guys are the best!

My last email went to Maureen’s old email for some reason. Here it is again so you don’t miss out!

I am sorry I have been absent from this conversation!! I went away this weekend and I couldn’t keep up via cell phone. I did not see any rules listed above that I would edit. I agree to all! I have one to add, kind of joking but kind of serious- I mentioned this to Chris prior to our first watch. Can watchers watch under the influence? Would the watching experience be heightened or dampened?

Sitting in a grassy field makes me want a joint… What can I say…

But I will surely refrain if the rules say so 😉

 

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:05 AM, KC wrote:

I am sorry I have been absent from this conversation!! I went away this weekend and I couldn’t keep up via cell phone. I did not see any rules listed above that I would edit. I agree to all! I have one to add, kind of joking but kind of serious- I mentioned this to Chris prior to our first watch. Can watchers watch under the influence? Would the watching experience be heightened or dampened?

Sitting in a grassy field makes me want a joint… What can I say…

But I will surely refrain if the rules say so 😉

Kelly

Rule Discussion Post Set 2

More Rule Discussion Prior to Rule Set 2

Yes, well, I’ve caught on that you’re a wiseass.

Smile.

 

I hope to set up an e-mail list for people to sign up soon, but haven’t yet. Below is the club, the rules, and the list.

 

Let me know what I’ve missed!

CJ

 

 

 

 

Proposal for updated rules:

 

The Club

 

The Watching Club is an experimental democratic group that aims, for now, to pay attention to attention, to what focused consciousness does of and to itself, and through practice to make beauty with observation.

Perfect.
Membership to the club is currently open. Members gain access to the list of watches and the parameters and are asked, if participating, to abide by the rules and to provide a 10-word (or fewer) description of what was watched using the watching club rules.  There are no other requirements for membership. All who receive the e-mail about upcoming watches are considered members. Members are not required to participate in every watch, although they are expected to watch according to the rules occasionally.

Send an e-mail to thewatchingclub {at} yhoo {dOt} to join.

This needs to say “yahoo”, yes? And {dOt} com?

 

The rule group determines the rules for the club. The current rules are listed below, and the blog portion of this site serves to document the discussion around rule changes and as a repository of previous sets of rules. Membership to the rule group is also currently open.

Agree.
 

The Rules

(always subject to revision according to the rules group)

Agree
 

Bring your own chair. Seated is the prescribed position for watching; a chair may be moved at maximum of once an hour.

Agree
 

The minimum watch time is 2 hours; there is no maximum. Moving from the chair is allowed once an hour for 5 minutes. Plan accordingly.

Agree
 

A watch is synchronized in time and in subject but not necessarily in location. (In other words, if a watch of a convenience store is scheduled for noon-3pm Eastern Standard Time, participants on the West Coast would be able to participate from 9am-noon by watching a convenience store. Watchers are expected to vary slightly in interpretations of the subject as described by the rule group; watchers are expected to use “common sense” discretion and not to use the interpretation as an opportunity for wild divergent thinking.)

LOL. ( suggest deleting the word “standard” to accommodate daylight savings)
 

The list will be added to after watchers have submitted their 10-word descriptions to the rule group following the watch.

Suggest “updated” instead of “added to”— seems awkward.

 

No cellphones, even for checking the time.

NICE!

 

The selection of what to watch is done by the rule group, and the rule group documents its decision-making process how it seems fit, currently by posting the e-mail discussion to the blog.

Agree

A group of watchers may choose to split into two groups during the watch: talkers and no-talkers.

If they don’t choose to split, are they no-talkers by default?
 

A group of watchers may choose to split into two groups after a watch, to process, if necessary: talkers and no-talkers.

Agree
 

SMS messages, limited to written characters, may be considered “talking” and not documentation (which is not allowed), provided these texts are deleted within 3 hours.

Agree, altho, i don’t see the need. Sorry, SMS? Is that texting?
 

Our membership is open.

Already said up top.
The rule group determines what gets watched next. The watchers watch.

Also a repeat.
 

The two groups may be comprised of the same people, but they are different groups.

Agree.  Add “talkers and no-talkers” to be more clear?

 

 

Currently, all rules are open for discussion, and the rule group determines of and by itself how rules are revised.

 

There is to be no documentation of the watching, EXCEPT the following three types:

 

  1. a list of what was watched, where the list items are fewer than 10 words per location, and
  2. whatever documentation becomes part of the rules, provided the rules discussion does not subvert the prohibition against documentation of the watch, and

Love this part. I consider the essence of the experiment!

  1. documentation of the rules group, its considerations, methods, and reasons for acting.

 

 

The List:

 

Watched:

  1. In and around West Cemetery, Amherst, MA 2/21/16 from approximately 3:10pm until about 4:20pm. b. Anderson and Our Savior Lutheran Cemeteries from road between them 2/2/2016 from 12 noon to 3 pm pst in Stanwood, WA.

 

Scheduled:

  1. An Art Gallery 4p-7p Eastern Time. 3/3/16.
  2. A Convenience Store 11a-2p Eastern Time. 3/13/16.

 

 

 

 

 

Christopher Janke
www.christopherjanke.com

 

From: MM
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 3:01 PM
To: CJ
Cc: KC
Subject: Re: Rule Group

 

We don’t know each other too well so I wonder if you know that most of my responses are tongue in cheek. I bet Kelly knows it. I did feel distracted missing the two of you during the watch, though.
On Feb 26, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Christopher Janke <christopherjanke@yahoo.com> wrote:

Typing on my phone so…

I was thinking that it was my role (as website maintainer) to synthesize and propose a set of updated rules for the rule group’s consideration. I do hold the opinion that our rules should be updated whenever we have new issues or approaches that the current rules don’t address, and I also hold the opinion that a concise set of rules is the best way to communicate the rules, especially to new members.

So I was not thinking so much of my role as editor but as consolidator of a new formulation for our joint consideration…

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From: MM
Sent: ‎2/‎26/‎2016 7:39 PM
To: CJ
Cc: KC
Subject: Re: Rule Group

You’re going to edit me ?? !
On Feb 26, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Christopher Janke <christopherjanke@yahoo.com> wrote:

I’m going to try to consolidate this advice into a new set of rules over the weekend.

 

Kelly, you’re quite mum. Feel free to chime in!

 

Christopher Janke
www.christopherjanke.com

 

From: CJ
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:48 PM
To: MM, KC
Subject: RE: Rule Group

 

I just quickly looked at your version 2 and  I think there are only a few changes. What if you just added them in reply here with any additional thoughts you have regarding my replies?

 

Christopher Janke
www.christopherjanke.com

 

From: MM
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:34 PM
To: CJ
Subject: Re: Rule Group

 

Uh, oh! Our emails crossed and we are now, unfortunately, out of sync. How do we fix it?

More Rule Discussion Prior to Rule Set 2

More Rule Discussion

Uh, oh! Our emails crossed and we are now, unfortunately, out of sync. How do we fix it?
On Feb 26, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Christopher Janke  wrote:

AWESOME! I love this so much. I’m in blue below.

CJ

 

I am intending to continue to strip names out of this correspondence but to continue posting to the rules discussion blog.

 

https://thewatchingclub.org/2016/

 

 

Christopher Janke
www.christopherjanke.com

 

From: MM
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:59 PM
To: CJ
Cc: KC
Subject: Re: Rule Group

 

My responses are in italics below and are to be considered part of a rules discussion not necessarily solutions to issues of concern and some responses are, in fact, new concerns.
On Feb 25, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Christopher Janke wrote:

Ok – HI  Rule Group.

 

Thanks for your service to The Watching Club.

 

I’m suggesting some methods for solving our potential problems below. I’m eager to hear any solutions you have, especially if the one’s I’ve suggested don’t seem right to you…

 

I’m going to type in CAPS below with suggestions to the current issues.

 

pLEASE DO let me know your thoughts on these hot issues…

 

 

 

 

 

Christopher Janke
www.christopherjanke.com

 

From: CJ
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 11:22 PM
To: MM, KC
Subject: Rule Group

 

 

I now call to order a de-facto meeting of the rule group that serves to guide the activities of The Watching Club.

 

We now have a website…

 

And we have other people interested in joining.

 

This e-mail will serve, for now, as a discussion for the Rules Group. If you no longer wish to be part of the Rules Group, please let me know.

 

If you want to remain a part, I’d love to know your thoughts on the following issues needing resolution:

 

-Cellphone policy. I SAY NO CELLPHONES.

Agree

 

-Moving one’s chair. CHAIR MUST REMAIN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST 45 MINUTES.

Disagree. moving one’s chair works against the goal of developing a new way of paying attention. Members of  The Watching Club should be intensely disciplined and committed to “watching” with the intention, say, of knowing every inch of a setting and understanding its common interaction with humans. Members should be interested in joining The Watching Club BECAUSE, as I did, of their desire to immerse themselves in the concept of watching so as to develop a sense of observation that results in a superior way of paying attention. 

Ok. I have a few thoughts here. First, I don’t think we should at all require a specific motivation for being a part of the group. I think we can set parameters for behavior, but should stay away from rules regarding thought or motivation, right?

That being said, I DO think we get to determine behavior for watching as part of the watching club.

And I accept that there are parameters.

My experience this last week surprised me. I watched intensely for about an hour and got too cold to concentrate at that point, and I moved around, moved the chair, and never could settle back in. During the hour, though, I had more than one intense moving experience, was brought to tears. And after the hour I was surprised that I was feeling a little overwhelmed. There was possibly just too much to see and watch, so the fact that we’d set aside only an hour and a half (and then didn’t even do all of it), was a relief – not because I didn’t want to watch but because I felt like the watching had already been somewhat transformative and that more time didn’t feel like it would necessarily produce more “result.”

I watched over a large area, and there was no way for me to know “every inch.” There were too many inches, feet, acres, people, clouds, etc. (I’m tempted to do an “inadvertent” documentation here by talking about some of the things that were beautiful but I’m resisting.)  Again, this is perhaps a commentary on motivation – or perhaps also on intended outcome. I don’t feel the need to “understand.” Indeed, I think that I understand “understanding,” it’s either incomplete, and in a way made more incomplete the more one is paying attention, or “understanding” is in the service of something and is maybe not understanding or understanding as dictated by a specific perspective. So, I guess in a similar vein to my comment above, I think that watchers need not have an aim of “understanding.” Shouldn’t each watcher watch for their own reason? I mean, we might suggest, as I guess the initial rules did/do, that there is a purpose but perhaps it should be vague or changing or perhaps the purpose should be removed. Right now the rules say “The Watching Club is an experimental democratic group that aims, for now, to make beauty through observation only.

I should have debated this definition democratically. I think motivation is, in some way, part of this. Perhaps not as you describe the need to understand the watch and its results but certainly as a reason to participate in the concept of watching. The first time it was presented there was a clear statement about improving the art of paying attention.
 

I should say too that regarding the last watch, I recognize too that if I’d been required to do 2 or 3 or 5 hours, who knows what other discoveries I would have made, especially if not cold, especially if I didn’t have to pee.

Members should make a conscious decision to pee before watching, as one would do before a road trip to, say NYPOP.
 

 

-Moving while watching; does it count? NO SIGNIFICANT BODILY MOVMENT; NO WALKING. TO WATCH FOR THE WATCHING CLUB, YOU MAY NOT WALK. SITTING IS THE PREFERRED POSITION FOR THE WATCHING CLUB.

Strongly agree.

 

-Abbreviated periods of watching (less than 3 hours). Is there a minimum amount of time? ONE HOUR IS THE MINIMUM.

Disagree. It should be a minimum of at least 2 with no maximum ( see explanation under “moving one’s chair”)

 

-Multi-locational watching. MULTI-LOCATIONAL WATCHING IS ACCEPTIBLE, BUT IT MUST BE SYNCRONIZED IN TIME.

Agree. But would add synchronized with subject.

YES, OF COURSE. Yes!

 

-Invitations to be part of the watching group; can anyone join? How do they join? Do they have to watch with another member or not? If not, do they simply send an item to be added to the list? Does the watching have to be roughly synchronous? How many watchers need to be watching at one time for it to count? WATCHING MUST BE COORDINATED BY THE RULE GROUP, SCHEDULED AHEAD OF TIME AND WITH PRESCRIBED RULES.

TO JOIN, PEOPLE JUST NEED TO SAY THEY WANT TO JOIN AND THEN THEY GET AN E-MAIL ANNOUNCING THE NEXT WATCH WHEN IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE RULE GROUP. IT’S BASICALLY A ONE-WAY COMMUNICATION. THE RULE GROUP ANNOUNCES THE NEXT WATCH AND THE RULES FOR THAT WATCH. POTENTIAL WATCHERS RECEIVE IT AND WATCH. THEY THEN REPORT BACK A SHORT LINE-ITEM OF WHAT WAS WATCHED, PROVIDED IT FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS .

Agree. Watchers must be members.

But to be “members,” they just basically need to sign up for the e-mail that announces the next watch, yes?

Agree.
 

LIKEWISE, TO JOIN THE RULE GROUP, PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO SAY THEY WANT TO JOIN THE RULE GROUP AND THEN THEY BECOME PART OF THIS E-MAIL DISCUSSION WITH FULL PARTICIPATION. FOR NOW, ALL E-MAIL SENT TO THE RULE GROUP FOR DISCUSSION ALSO BECOMES PART OF THE RULE GROUP BLOG.

To join the rule group the sayer must participate for a TBD term.

OOO. Terms! What should the term of a rule group member be? How long are you committed? What happens when someone quits without serving their whole term? Do their contributions to the rules remain or would the rule changes that occurred during their tenure be voided?

How is “full participation” determined, then? I suggest a lifelong term to be interrupted only by serious illness or the termination of the club for lack of membership. No voiding during tenure otherwise there would  be no motivation to fully participate.
 

-Website: thewatchingclub.org Suggestions? I’m managing it right now. Is that ok? Who should manage it? Also: thewatchingclub@yahoo.com I CAN CONTINUE MANAGING THIS. Agree.

 

-Possible inclusion of The Watching Club in a show in NY. I’d like to post the rules and to schedule a watch that people could pick up information about I’M GOING TO MAKE SOME KIND OF SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP.

Ok

 

 

ALSO, can we schedule a watch IN the NYPOP space or near it? Too obnoxious? I’d like to schedule a few watches for the next few weeks.

 

WATCHES I WANT TO SCHEDULE:

3/3 (THURSDAY) SYNCRONIZED TO   OR 3/4 (FRIDAY) SYNCRONIZED TO 11A-2P – IN/NEAR AN ART GALLERY (NYPOP SPACE IN NY IS WHERE I WILL BE AND WHERE THE WATCHING GROUP RULES WILL BE DISPLAYED…)

 

3/13 (SUNDAY) SYNCRONIZED TO 11A-2P EST : A 7/11 OR EQUIVALENT

I would participate so, not too obnoxious.  It occurs to me that we are, currently, a three generational club at the moment.

 

 

<<The above is also posted at: https://thewatchingclub.org/2016/02/24/the-watching-club-rules/ >>

 

 

The Lists.

Watched:

  1. In and around West Cemetery, Amherst MA. 2/21/16 from approximately 3:10pm until about 4:20pm.
  2. Watched Anderson and Our Savior Lutheran Cemeteries from road between them 2/21/2016 from 12 noon to 3 pm pst in Stanwood, WA.

 

 

I’VE CHANGED THE LIST STYLE TO HAVE A SINGLE LINE ITEM TO REPRESENT THAT THESE TWO CEMETARIES WERE WATCHED REALLY AS PART OF A SINGLE WATCH. Agree but would  like to proofread the line item before publication.

 

New agenda for this de-facto rule group meeting:

   I think often about defining or, actually, re-defining certain words as they apply to The Watching Club.  I am concerned, for example, with the words club and group which, as of now don’t apply.  The word “group” is defined in most dictionaries as a “collection” or “assemblage” of persons with the same interest; often you will see the word “together” in the definition. The concept, of course, is that the Watching Club would be together watching at the same time in the same place.  While watching last week, I felt alone, left out, and spent too much time wondering what other members were seeing, feeling and even wearing! The definition that DOES fit us for “club” is: “a heavy stick thicker at one end than the other”….West Coast being the “other”. I have no solution except to add  worn-out adjectives like “spiritual” or “virtual”…meh.  I wish there could be some reference in the rules of the fact  that it is an interstate club and that a founding member of importance watches during Pacific Time.  Is that a concern that demeans the goals of the Club? Is it selfish? 

MAM

Washington State

Hmm. The rule group meets via e-mail so far. We’ve never really met in person, so I feel comfortable calling it a group, but I’m game for other words. I do like the simplicity. I don’t think

Fwiw, our watching last week was done silently, and I don’t know if you and Kelly corresponded afterwards, but we had talked (I suppose as an ad-hoc rules decision on the fly) about the possibility of allowing texting and talking about the watch but not e-mailing, to keep with the spirit of the non-documentation but to allow for the idea of talking when in-person talking isn’t possible.

I really like that we’ve been able to keep the club going despite the physical distance, and I think that our precedent for multiple locations is exciting for the possibility of adding members.

I don’t like that you feel alone or left out. I feel fine with some kind of communication before the watching, perhaps a phone call, to start the watch synchronously? Or even skype? Or gchat? (What happens if there are four locations?)

As for the pacific time, it’s in THE LIST, which is, in a way, the most important and only real documentation of each watch. I guess you don’t feel like that’s enough, but I think of it as quite significant. I like that you included it.

And I think we ARE a club, not just one for beating things with, except, perhaps, in my case and my over-verbose and somewhat perverse love of the adjudication of our rules, beating herein the dead horses known as rules and the rules that make the rules & c.

I actually like the cudgel definition of club if only it didn’t imply weapon ….. I love being the handle of it.
 

 

 

Christopher Janke
www.christopherjanke.com

 

 

 

More Rule Discussion

Rules Discussion Continued

Ok – HI  Rule Group.

Thanks for your service to The Watching Club.

I’m suggesting some methods for solving our potential problems below. I’m eager to hear any solutions you have, especially if the one’s I’ve suggested don’t seem right to you…

I’m going to type in CAPS below with suggestions to the current issues.

pLEASE DO let me know your thoughts on these hot issues…

 

Christopher Janke
http://www.christopherjanke.com

 

From: Christopher Janke
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 11:22 PM
To: MM, KC
Subject: Rule Group

I now call to order a de-facto meeting of the rule group that serves to guide the activities of The Watching Club.

We now have a website…

And we have other people interested in joining.

This e-mail will serve, for now, as a discussion for the Rules Group. If you no longer wish to be part of the Rules Group, please let me know.

If you want to remain a part, I’d love to know your thoughts on the following issues needing resolution:

-Cellphone policy. I SAY NO CELLPHONES.

-Moving one’s chair. CHAIR MUST REMAIN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST 45 MINUTES

-Moving while watching; does it count? NO SIGNIFICANT BODILY MOVMENT; NO WALKING. TO WATCH FOR THE WATCHING CLUB, YOU MAY NOT WALK. SITTING IS THE PREFERRED POSITION FOR THE WATCHING CLUB.

-Abbreviated periods of watching (less than 3 hours). Is there a minimum amount of time? ONE HOUR IS THE MINIMUM.

-Multi-locational watching. MULTI-LOCATIONAL WATCHING IS ACCEPTIBLE, BUT IT MUST BE SYNCRONIZED IN TIME.

-Invitations to be part of the watching group; can anyone join? How do they join? Do they have to watch with another member or not? If not, do they simply send an item to be added to the list? Does the watching have to be roughly synchronous? How many watchers need to be watching at one time for it to count? WATCHING MUST BE COORDINATED BY THE RULE GROUP, SCHEDULED AHEAD OF TIME AND WITH PRESCRIBED RULES.

TO JOIN, PEOPLE JUST NEED TO SAY THEY WANT TO JOIN AND THEN THEY GET AN E-MAIL ANNOUNCING THE NEXT WATCH WHEN IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE RULE GROUP. IT’S BASICALLY A ONE-WAY COMMUNICATION. THE RULE GROUP ANNOUNCES THE NEXT WATCH AND THE RULES FOR THAT WATCH. POTENTIAL WATCHERS RECEIVE IT AND WATCH. THEY THEN REPORT BACK A SHORT LINE-ITEM OF WHAT WAS WATCHED, PROVIDED IT FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS

LIKEWISE, TO JOIN THE RULE GROUP, PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO SAY THEY WANT TO JOIN THE RULE GROUP AND THEN THEY BECOME PART OF THIS E-MAIL DISCUSSION WITH FULL PARTICIPATION. FOR NOW, ALL E-MAIL SENT TO THE RULE GROUP FOR DISCUSSION ALSO BECOMES PART OF THE RULE GROUP BLOG.

-Website: thewatchingclub.org Suggestions? I’m managing it right now. Is that ok? Who should manage it? Also: thewatchingclub [At} yhoo I CAN CONTINUE MANAGING THIS

-Possible inclusion of The Watching Club in a show in NY. I’d like to post the rules and to schedule a watch that people could pick up information about I’M GOING TO MAKE SOME KIND OF SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP

ALSO, can we schedule a watch IN the NYPOP space or near it? Too obnoxious? I’d like to schedule a few watches for the next few weeks.

WATCHES I WANT TO SCHEDULE:

3/3 (THURSDAY) SYNCRONIZED TO   OR 3/4 (FRIDAY) SYNCRONIZED TO 11A-2P – IN/NEAR AN ART GALLERY (NYPOP SPACE IN NY IS WHERE I WILL BE AND WHERE THE WATCHING GROUP RULES WILL BE DISPLAYED…)

3/13 (SUNDAY) SYNCRONIZED TO 11A-2P EST : A 7/11 OR EQUIVALENT

<<The above is also posted at: https://thewatchingclub.org/2016/02/24/the-watching-club-rules/ >>

 

The Lists.

Watched:

  1. In and around West Cemetery, Amherst MA. 2/21/16 from approximately 3:10pm until about 4:20pm.
  2. Watched Anderson and Our Savior Lutheran Cemeteries from road between them 2/21/2016 from 12 noon to 3 pm pst in Stanwood, WA.

 

I’VE CHANGED THE LIST STYLE TO HAVE A SINGLE LINE ITEM TO REPRESENT THAT THESE TWO CEMETARIES WERE WATCHED REALLY AS PART OF A SINGLE WATCH

 

Christopher Janke
http://www.christopherjanke.com

 

Rules Discussion Continued

The Original Rules

The Rules:

(always subject to revision according to the process dictated by the rules group)

Bring your own chair.

We watch for 3 hours with (hopefully) no breaks.

We come up with something to watch somehow and try not to fight about it as we pick.

We document the method we used to pick.

We split into two groups to watch, if necessary: talkers and no-talkers.

We split into two groups after watching, to process, if necessary: talkers and no-talkers.

(Some watchers might want to watch in silence and then talk about it afterwards; some watchers might want to talk during but not after; some might want to talk both times, some not at all.)

We have open membership.

The rule group determines what gets watched next. The watching group watches.

The two groups can be comprised of the same people, but they are different groups.

At the outset, we have a rule group to determine the rules, and all rules are open for discussion, and there are no additional guidelines for how to revise the rules.

There is to be no documentation of the watching, either done before during or after the watching, EXCEPT the following three things:

A. a list of what was watched, where the list items are under 10 words, and

B. whatever documentation becomes part of the rules/guidelines, where we understand the rules and guidelines as that which is necessary to run the group and while this not need be a minimalist document, it also should not pretend to serve as rules and actually serve as a preservation or documentation of what was watched, and

C. documentation of the rules group, including what method was used to pick what was watched for each watching occasion, as well as documentation of the rules as they change, and, I hope, documentation of how and why they changed.

The Original Rules

Rules Group Documentation to Add

How we determined what to watch: we took Kelly’s suggestion (cemetery) as modified by Chris (near a good amount of human activity).

We made some rapid (executive?) decisions:

-Maureen determined that the three hours was not required of Kelly.

-Kelly and Chris determined that no cell phones should be used.

-Kelly and Chris watched for about 1 hour before getting cold and giving themselves permission to walk around.

-Kelly and Chris gave themselves permission to stop watching after about 1:15, although they had agreed (under Maureen’s executive decision regarding shortening the watching time) to watch for 1:30.

-It wasn’t clear whether these changes should be regarded as temporary or permanent.

Rules Group Documentation to Add

Rules Group Current Issues

I now call to order a de-facto meeting of the rule group that serves to guide the activities of The Watching Club.

We now have a website…

And we have other people interested in joining.

This e-mail will serve, for now, as a discussion for the Rules Group. If you no longer wish to be part of the Rules Group, please let me know.

If you want to remain a part, I’d love to know your thoughts on the following issues needing resolution:

-Cellphone policy.

-Moving one’s chair.

-Moving while watching; does it count?

-Abbreviated periods of watching (less than 3 hours). Is there a minimum amount of time?

-Multi-locational watching.

-Invitations to be part of the watching group; can anyone join? How do they join? Do they have to watch with another member or not? If not, do they simply send an item to be added to the list? Does the watching have to be roughly synchronous? How many watchers need to be watching at one time for it to count?

-Website: thewatchingclub.org Suggestions? I’m managing it right now. Is that ok? Who should manage it? Also: thewatchingclub@yahoo.com

-Possible inclusion of The Watching Club in a show in NY. I’d like to post the rules and to schedule a watch that people could pick up information about

ALSO, can we schedule a watch IN the NYPOP space or near it? Too obnoxious? I’d like to schedule a few watches for the next few weeks.

Rules Group Current Issues